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Re:Joni M : Dylan "not authentic _ plagiarist _ fa 15 Years, 7 Months ago

To rehash what I've said a million times:

If you look at Tom Waits, John Lennon, or, hell, anyone, you tend to find just as many borrowed lines as Dylan has.
The difference between calling things shout-outs, allusions, intertextuality and plagiarism tends to be whether you're trying to make someone look bad or not. Joni is seldom known to say anything nice about anyone. That just isn't how she rolls.

As to Dylan's voice, there's certainly a difference between his voice on Theme Time and on, say, the Rome interview or the Tell Ol Bill sessions. I think there's Bob the person, and there's Bob the character (that he plays to varying degrees at various times), just like, well, every single other public personality.

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