The Never Ending Pool

standin_on_the_gallows wrote:

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This is getting way off topic. Let's get back to the orignal point of the thread. Thanks, everyone!

Which is that Joni Mitchell is a bitter dried up old tart who uses a lot of guitar tunings.

PlainJane wrote:

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I think six pages of the original topic was way more than enough.

Unfortunately this isn't about what you or I think, it's about what Joni thinks, and I don't even know that, I only know what it is reported she said.

To rehash what I've said a million times:

If you look at Tom Waits, John Lennon, or, hell, anyone, you tend to find just as many borrowed lines as Dylan has.
The difference between calling things shout-outs, allusions, intertextuality and plagiarism tends to be whether you're trying to make someone look bad or not. Joni is seldom known to say anything nice about anyone. That just isn't how she rolls.

As to Dylan's voice, there's certainly a difference between his voice on Theme Time and on, say, the Rome interview or the Tell Ol Bill sessions. I think there's Bob the person, and there's Bob the character (that he plays to varying degrees at various times), just like, well, every single other public personality.

Also: if you're not cool with the charcter vs the actual personality of a public person being occasionally out of sync, you're in for a very disappointing life.

*gasp* a performer who entertains us and puts on a show is engaging in deception. Shocker!

But Bob never claimed to be a spokesman for a generation, or a prophet, just a song and dance man. How deceitful is that? I know he is really the reincarnation of an old testament prophet in a post-modern neoclassical sense, or the reincarnation of Paul Revere's horse mixed with a New Pony named Lucifer.

I believe every word literally.