I think we need a follow-up interview over what Joni Mitchell really thinks about Bob Dylan. I'm sure both she and Bob would love that. I think Joni may be refering to the fact that "Bob Dylan" and Robert Zimmerman are distinct characters, where as Joni is Joni, there is no inauthenticity. As for plagarism, she may not mean that disrespectfully, just commenting upon their different ways of arranging lyrics.
Re:Joni M : Dylan "not authentic _ plagiarist _ fake" 13 Years, 12 Months ago
I don't doubt that much of what Joni says is true. She is a great singer/songwriter, too.
However, for someone who has lifted words and lyrics from various sources, Bob has a remarkably long list of lyrics and lines that he's made his own.
I love all of Bob's work. Regardless of where it comes from, it's good. I don't know Bob so I have no idea how authentic or sincere he is, but I do know the majority of his work sounds more or at least equally as sincere of any other artist I've ever seen or heard.
Even if we did know him we might not know him. We're not there. Who knows anyone these days. This sounds like a Mitchell ado about nothing.
Re:Joni M : Dylan "not authentic _ plagiarist _ fake" 13 Years, 12 Months ago
Joni could never have written visions of Johanna and Bob could never have written Coyote. They are different styles of songwriters. Bob uses allusions and references to create amorphous images. Joni is more concrete, it seems. (I'm not that familiar with all her works). I think Bob writes a lot from an assumed perspective, such as:
"What would Mickey Mouse think if he were in this place emotionally?"
Poetry is never footnoted. Borrowing phrases, lines, images, etc. from other literary sources and using them in unique ways, sometimes as allusions and references, sometimes because the thought/idea was well-expressed already and does not need a unique artist's touch to make it powerful, is not unusual or morally reprehensible, even if called "plagarism":
"I sleep in the kitchen with my feet in the hall..."
Re:Joni M : Dylan "not authentic _ plagiarist _ fake" 13 Years, 12 Months ago
Joni's music is much more sophisticated than Bob's. There are 51 different tunings on her records. She is highly appreciated by jazz greats like Herbie Hancock and Wayne Shorter (who have played on her records, Hancock also winning a Grammy with his tribute record to Joni), who she possibly sees as her true peers. And then some bozo comes along and compares her to Bob because she "changed her name"
If the press had been around in Ben Jonson's day (it was just in embryo form, satirized in Jonson's own Staple of News), I wonder if any reporter would have dared compare him to Shakespeare. Ben would have probably cut his ear off.
QUOTE: i dont remember who i was on the old pool. maybe somebody can tell me.
my guess is that little sadie used to be country bob (in this pool) before his parents decided they wanted a girl.
plain jane by any other name would be as smart and funny
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