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Joni M : Dylan "not authentic _ plagiarist _ fake" 14 Years ago  
Joni Mitchell LA Times interview


LAT: ... The folk scene you came out of had fun creating personas. You were born Roberta Joan Anderson, and someone named Bobby Zimmerman became Bob Dylan.

JM: Bob is not authentic at all. He's a plagiarist, and his name and voice are fake. Everything about Bob is a deception. We are like night and day, he and I.
 
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Re:Joni M : Dylan "not authentic _ plagiarist _ fa 14 Years ago  
hell hath no fury.....
 
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Re:Joni M : Dylan "not authentic _ plagiarist _ fa 14 Years ago  
"his name and voice are fake"

Well the name - OK. But voice? I guess a few of them over the years might have been fake but anyone care to guess which is the "real" Dylan voice? Was it Nashville Skyline after all?
 
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Re:Joni M : Dylan "not authentic _ plagiarist _ fake" 14 Years ago  
At first I thought "Yikes! What must have happened on that 1998 tour with Bob and Van?" Then I read the quote again and thought, yep they are like night and day. I don't know about the "authentic" jab, but I don't disagree with the rest of the statement, or think it's particularly damning.
 
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Re:Joni M : Dylan "not authentic _ plagiarist _ fake" 14 Years ago  
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Re:Joni M : Dylan "not authentic _ plagiarist _ fake" 14 Years ago  
Twitterland is abuzz with this

http://twitter.com/#search?q=Mitchell%20Dylan
 
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Re:Joni M : Dylan 14 Years ago  
billyg wrote:


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When was it that you met her?
 
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Re:Joni M : Dylan "not authentic _ plagiarist _ fake" 14 Years ago  
Don't get me wrong, now, I like Dylan and have enjoyed his music, but, what, exactly, did she say that wasn't true?
 
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Re:Joni M : Dylan "not authentic _ plagiarist _ fake" 14 Years ago  
I agree - her words read as though she's angry, but the only thing I disagree with is that he doesn't sing with an "authentic" voice.

Bob has to approach singing from a completely different place than Joni - she has (had) an angelic soprano and sings from a ethereal perspective, Bob sings from the ground up, and he revels in vocal gymnastics - not operatic, but carny.
 
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Re:Joni M : Dylan "not authentic _ plagiarist _ fake" 14 Years ago  
Deceptive, fake or not, Bob is still a great lyricist, musician, and singer.

If what she says is true, then authenticity is overrated.
 
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Re:Joni M : Dylan "not authentic _ plagiarist _ fake" 14 Years ago  
she certainly overstates dylan's artifice and probably understates her own. having precendent and sources talks more about an intellectual curiousity and appreciation rather than anything too crass - yes he should credit others better but what the hell...
 
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Re:Joni M : Dylan 14 Years ago  
billyg wrote:
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And fair play to you, Bill.
 
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Re:Joni M : Dylan 14 Years ago  
jhl3 wrote:
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I agree - her words read as though she's angry, but the only thing I disagree with is that he doesn't sing with an "authentic" voice.

Bob has to approach singing from a completely different place than Joni - she has (had) an angelic soprano and sings from a ethereal perspective, Bob sings from the ground up, and he revels in vocal gymnastics - not operatic, but carny.


Okay, but one listen to this and one asks, "Will the real Bob Dylan please stand up."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWDQkz8POps
 
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Re:Joni M : Dylan 14 Years ago  
... complete this song lyric: ...
"Don't it always seem to to go ..."

" ???????????" ....
 
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Re:Joni M : Dylan 14 Years ago  
.... or, how about this ... which I think she WROTE FOR BOB...
haha
" Your a mean ol' daddy ..... but I LIKE you "


...gotta love Joni ....
 
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